With all the talk about this Saturday’s Democratic Party of Georgia’s delegate vote, I thought I would give the top reasons why a State Committee member should attend and vote for the Hillary Clinton slate:

10 – of the Clinton Delegates are 40 years old and younger (30%)

9 - Women at the At-large level (56%); Overall women comprise 52% of the Clinton delegation.

8 – of the Clinton Delegates have gone to the convention before; the remaining 76% are 1st timers

7 – Clinton delegates at the At-large level are DPG State Committee members; Overall the Clinton delegation has 14 State Committee members (42% of the delegation)

6 - are Senior Citizens (DNC Age guidelines)

5 – delegates are from the 10th Congressional District – overall 80% of our delegation lives outside the 5th Congressional District

5 – are Democratic Party of Georgia Executive Committee Members

4 - LGBT members

3 - are Georgia State House Representatives

2 - are Hispanic delegates (the State’s goal is 1 Hispanic)

2 - are State of Georgia’s Constitutional Officers

2 - are front page Bloggers here at BfD (both are women and one is a person of color)

2 - are on the Young Democrats of Georgia Executive Board

2 - are persons with disabilities

1 - Married Couple

1 - Congressional Spouse

The Georgia Hillary Clinton delegation IS Georgia and represents the geographical, cultural, and ethnicity diversity of the DPG State Committee. I ask you to come out and vote for the Clinton Delegation this Saturday, May 24th @ 10 am. Click here for more details.

I need your vote and so do my fellow hard working and democratic loving friends in the Clinton delegation.

 

45 Responses to Top 10 Reasons to Vote for the Clinton Slate this Saturday

  1. innerredneckexposed says:

    RD: If Obama is so divisive why does he win over more independents/moderates/opposite party members of any of the three candidates, according to polls. I think of the entire Democratic Party, you are one of the few people who says with a straight face that he is divisive. Except for some of those WV Dems, but they are frikkin crazy.

    I don’t think the openly segregationist days of the DPG will reclaim the state for us but it is interesting to see that as much as everything changes, it all stays the same.

  2. Decaturguy says:

    Ahh, yes, the good old days of the Georgia Democratic Party. The party that produced such legendary racists like former Governor and US Senator Herman Talmadge, Senator Richard Russell, and Governors Marvin Griffin and Lester Maddox.

    Yes, lets go back to those days, right? As least we were winning.

    RuralDem, you are so far behind the curve to know what it is going to take to produce a Democratic majority in Georgia in the future. You don’t even realize the social and demographic changes that are occurring in Georgia.

    You can dismiss Obama’s thumping of Clinton and Edwards in the Democratic primary just a few months ago and the huge voter participation his candidacy drew, but in doing so you are missing the keys to what might produce a Democratic majority again in this state because you are pining for the past.

  3. RuralDem says:

    DG,

    Reading is your friend. Apparently you look at a post, pick one part, and stop reading, or simply focus all your attention on one part. I have no problem voting for someone who is not a white male and if you knew some of the campaigns I’ve worked on, and some of the elected officials that I mention quite frequently on this site and other blogs, then you’d know better.

    I’d argue that you’re quite insecure by constantly suggesting that I have a problem with non-white male candidates.

    Is there something you’d like to tell us? Do you harbor negative feelings towards a particular group? I don’t know if you’re black, white, or whatever, but apparently you’re harboring some negative beliefs and trying to escape this by accusing others of harboring these beliefs. No wonder you’re always going after people.

    I said we’re not a liberal state. We’re a populist state. Socially conservative fiscally moderate. We, meaning our party, used to be that way, and hopefully can become that way once again. If not, we’re doomed to stay out of power in our state for quite a while.

    Obama is out of step with the state of Georgia.

    It’s amazing that you get so upset that I’m not a supporter of Obama. Even sndeak doesn’t get this angry :)

  4. Decaturguy says:

    Obama is too busy bashing rural citizens

    Spare me the hyperbole. We’d be better off if you’d just admit that the reason you supported Edwards over Obama or Clinton, despite his more liberal message, is because like Roy Barnes said he “looks like us” and he “talks like us.” I can only come to one conclusion.

    If Obama is so out of step with Georgia Democrats then why did he blow everyone else out in a primary with the largest voting participation ever?

  5. Jen B. says:

    You two need to be on BlogHate.

  6. RuralDem says:

    Decaturguy,

    Edwards’ populist message appealed to rural voters and as a rural voter, I’ll side with someone who appeals to my area over someone like Obama who bashes us, and Hillary who is too fake. I disagree big time with his decision to drift leftward on social issues, but his economic message appealed to rural voters like myself. The fact that he was out here campaigning months before Super Tuesday also said something. Sure, Presidential candidates cannot travel everywhere, but Edwards gained major respect by doing that.

    You’re the one insinuating that I am not supporting Obama or Clinton because one is black and one is a woman. You know nothing about the candidates I support. I think any YDG member on here that knows me really well will vouch for me in regards to supporting black and female Democrats. You can take your insinuations and hurl them at someone else, because it’s not working here. Which, I doubt anything I can say would do change your perception about me, and that’s fine. I’d rather not associate myself with someone like you who constantly throws out insane and false accusation.

    I simply do not like Obama because I personally feel he has no real message. I stand by my “hope. change. repeat” view. Which hey, maybe, just maybe, if he’s elected, that’ll be the second time in his wife’s adult life that she’s been proud of our great country.

    I do not like Hillary because I think she is too divisive.

    John Edwards and even Bill Richardson were the “unity” candidates. Those two could garner support from the entire Democratic Party. Obama is too busy bashing rural citizens and Hillary is simply disliked by so many people.

    When January rolls around, we’ll have had 8 years of a divisive Presidency, do we really want 4-8 more?

    We can go on and on about this, but I think this argument has been going on for the past few months.

    I’m not backing McCain, but I think we’re at a point where our party is going to nominate a candidate with no ideas but a positive outlook, or a candidate with many ideas, yet a candidate that will be just as divisive as Bush. We bashed the GOP for so long about being divisive and putting partisan interests above the citizens of our country. Hillary will be just as divisive and we’ll end up looking like hypocrites because of it.

    It’s a battle of the lesser of two evils.

    I rarely hurl insults unless someone insults me first and your insinuations about who I support, why I support someone, etc are simply wrong.

    Seriously, do you read my posts or do you pick a few words and jump? That’s not meant as an insult but a serious question.

  7. Decaturguy says:

    Oh, and how can I stalk Keith Gross? No one knows where he lives and he won’t tell anyone either. Someone might come “knock on his door.”

  8. Decaturguy says:

    RD,

    Instead of addressing the fact that Edwards ran on a more liberal policy platform than either Clinton or Obama, you hurl insults, but that is what we’ve come to expect from you.

  9. odinseye2k says:

    I would say Obama and Edwards are a *lot* more aligned in terms of message, personality, and outlook than Kerry and Edwards. In fact, the K-E experience is why I think an Obama-Clinton ticket is the worst idea in history.

    Meanwhile, about the liberalness of the South – it’s true. One day the region may lead in history rather than be dragged along with it, but it is also a nice counterbalance to those of us that would plow ahead a little too quickly to force us to explain ourselves.

    The above is actually a reason I contributed to Greenpeace despite eventually seeing myself on the opposite end of the protest fence.

  10. RuralDem says:

    MelGX,

    If you were running on a ticket with John Kerry, how would you feel? I know I wouldn’t be excited.

    Besides, it’s not Edwards’ fault that Kerry lost, it’s Kerry’s fault for being such a crappy candidate.

    People vote for someone on more than just their views on issues. Personality and other characteristics come into play, and quite frankly, watching paint dry, or reading a Decaturguy post, is more entertaining than Kerry.

    Decaturguy,

    Read my post above, the one you likely saw before you posted yet ignored.

    I’m 100% sure that anyone who knows me personally knows that I have no problem with a black or a woman being president.

    In fact, I think I might have stated on here that I’d work my tail off for Ford or Bishop if one of them ever ran. Likewise with someone like Herseth-Sandlin.

    To insinuate that I supported John Edwards because he was a white male, is pathetic, and shows that you’re just fishing for something that isn’t there. Shouldn’t you be stalking Keith Gross or Andre?

  11. Decaturguy says:

    I think everyone (particularly southerners) like the idea of John Edwards, but time and time again he has fallen flat when it has come time to actually perform.

  12. innerredneckexposed says:

    he was a terrible VP candidate mainly because Kerry couldn’t be out shown by Edwards’ enthusiasm and, well, personality. Edwards also couldn’t attack Bush because Kerry was a fucking weak ass pansy, effete, and emasculated SOB.

    Kerry deserves every bad word said about him.

    Let ’04 Edwards be ’04 Edwards and it would have been a different story.

  13. MelGX says:

    If Edwards was so great in converting southerners into Democratic voters, then why did the Kerry/Edwards ticket lose Edwards home state of N. Carolina?”

    I can’t understand why some people are pushing John Edwards for VP again. He was a terrible VP candidate who didn’t campaign very much or very enthusiastically and has since trash talked Kerry in numerous interviews.

  14. Decaturguy says:

    RuralDem,

    The only “ideological” difference between Edwards, Clinton, and Obama was maybe that Edwards was the most liberal of the three, advocating a larger role for government in order to solve the problems of poverty and of the middle class.

    Therefore, I have to assume that the only thing that excited you about Edwards was that he was white and male. There really is no other way to explain it.

    If Edwards was so great in converting southerners into Democratic voters, then why did the Kerry/Edwards ticket lose Edwards home state of N. Carolina?

  15. RuralDem says:

    Smitty,

    I take it the first three words of that quote just does not register, does it?

  16. JerryT says:

    Is that a classic case of the problem with politics or what?

    Edwards spends a lot of time in places the conventional wisdom would say he had next to no chance of winning and voters there think he’s a hero for doing it, even as he’s losing.

    Other candidates do the strategically smart thing and allocate their time as it is most likely to be productive, and they get criticized.

    Do we WANT to lose? How come we can’t see past the ends of our noses sometimes?

  17. Smitty says:

    OMG – you never cease to amaze me RD!!

    Diversity is fine but we tend to go overboard, as evidenced by posts like this.

    WOW, just WOW. Them damn Democrats and their crazy diversity goals.

  18. RuralDem says:

    Well, I’m definitely glad the Clinton camp was able to make sure all groups were represented. Oh, wait, there’s a small Asian population in this state, is there an Asian delegate? I also know of a few French residents, is there a delegate with French roots?

    Oh no!

    Diversity is fine but we tend to go overboard, as evidenced by posts like this.

    plange,

    The Clinton name is a curse word in most circles in this state. Obama won decidedly in the Primary, but unless he picks Nunn or another good conservative Democrat, and Barr gets the LP nomination, there’s no way he’s taking Georgia.

    I know plenty of Republicans around here who loved Edwards. He knows how to talk to the rural voter, he didn’t come to Georgia at the last minute like the other two candidates.

    Obama and Clinton might cater well to the urban sectors like Columbus, Macon, and Atlanta, but they’re a drag on Democrats in the mostly rural areas of the state. Edwards came to this state multiple times before talk of Super Tuesday. He visited rural areas. He’s the only one out of the three that can attract these voters.

    Edwards could have brought back the rural vote that’s leaving our party at a rapid rate. He would have been a much bigger help on our down ballot races than Clinton or Obama.

    Anyway, yeah, I don’t think Obama and Clinton represent Georgia too well. Besides, we’re not a liberal state, and we never will be. Populist? Yes. Liberal? Nope.

  19. Smitty says:

    Nope Deak, that’s not why the post was about – What Bernita is not so sublty digging at is the feeling that the Clinton campaign has done a better job at hitting the diversity targets than the Obama campaign.

    - It was actually the reverse. I’m tired of folks (and ya’ll know who ya’ll are) slamming the Georgia Clinton camp that we haven’t done anything about diversity. Just wanted to let everyone know that our delegates fall into every category that is important to Georgia democrats.

    but now if I highlighted how the Obama camp has failed to meet any diversity goals — then BONUS!! hahaha (just kidding)

  20. jac1975 says:

    I am curious about the Obama delegation stats. Deak, you’re listed…do you know the rest?

    All i Know from the Obama At Large list is:

    1 white bisexual, partially deaf female

    1 str8 young white man

    2 str8 white females

    2 str8 black females

    Oh hell, I don’t know.

  21. odinseye2k says:

    True, plange – although the very nastiest of the Bush chickens had yet to roost in 2004. No Katrina, and Iraq was only about a year old.

    Let us also not forget that a lot of the administration’s worst abuses on torture, domestic spying, and the like had not come to public attention.

    Also, we had yet to get tagged with the results of so many years of an idiotic fossil fuels policy in willing ignorance of the pending Peak of oil production.

    We could only warn (and use that intellectual prowess again) about Bush’s future.

    It doesn’t take anyone too bright to see things are currently really screwed up. Hence the 80-some percent of people polled saying we’ve really screwed the pooch in this country.

  22. Tony says:

    We’re representing the 33.6% of Georgians who voted for her…

    plange — I was confused by Bernita’s post and thought that a seat could go for either candidate. If that were the case, I was giving one reason to “vote” for the Obama slate. sndeak set me straight. Go forth and represent…

    If so, Jesus, this is a byzantine system if ever I saw one.

    Took the words right out of my mouth.

  23. plange says:

    Odin, here’s hoping that 8 years of his idiocy is more convincing than just 4 years, because Kerry also pwned Bush in the debates but he failed to connect with the average Joe…

  24. odinseye2k says:

    True, but I also think we had the benefit of being in a Clinton presidency where all was good – small wars were conducted quickly and with minimal bloodshed, bad guys deposed of, a soaring economy, lowering debt and all of that.

    Now that we have the recent experience of W, being the smartest guy in the room may actually pay off.

    Of course, who knows. Nixon’s rise to power did come from a massive intellectual inferiority complex, so maybe that will continue to kneecap us.

    And yeah, I remember both the 2000 and 2004 debates and wondered which ones the press had been watching.

  25. CatherineAtlanta says:

    Odin. Perhaps you don’t recall the 2000 debates? W sounded like the fool he is, Gore sounded smart and the next morning we heard that Gore was an arrogant know-it-all. It seemed that, while preferred the egghead, the majority wanted the class clown.

    So, let’s hope that the Democratic nominee is able to connect with Americans, as well as be smart and capable. It’s not just about being the smartest one in the room… really it isn’t.

  26. plange says:

    RD:

    I meant it in an ideological sense.

    Still don’t see how you can say that…

    Tony:

    Too bad they don’t also represent the will of 66.4% of Georgians who voted in the primary.

    We’re representing the 33.6% of Georgians who voted for her…

  27. odinseye2k says:

    And also to RD …

    You have no idea how much I’ve hoped to see an Obama / Edwards (or similar rural guy) ticket. An urban / rural New Deal type team would be rather nice right about now.

    I also can’t wait to watch Obama kick McCain up and down the debate floor … 894th in his West Point class against the former president of the Harvard Law review. It’s going to be redonkulous.

  28. plange says:

    Odin– there are district level delegates (which we selected on April 19) and at-large delegates, which we’re doing tomorrow…

  29. odinseye2k says:

    I’m also slightly confused … we’re *still* voting on who gets to go to Denver?

    If so, Jesus, this is a byzantine system if ever I saw one.

  30. Tony says:

    Ah, thanks for the clarification, and I’m sorry to all for the confusion — this system is sometimes a little too complicated for me, but I should have at least looked that up.

    It is good to know that the number of delegates are assigned proprotionally.

    I haven’t seen the Obama slate, so I can’t confirm whether the feeling that it falls short on diversity is correct.

  31. sndeak says:

    Tony – The delegation will represent the fact that Obama won Georgia decidely.

    The fact that Obama has 13 at large delegates to Clinton’s 6 is proportional representation.

    What Bernita is not so sublty digging at is the feeling that the Clinton campaign has done a better job at hitting the diversity targets than the Obama campaign.

  32. Smitty says:

    Too bad they don’t also represent the will of 66.4% of Georgians who voted in the primary. – what the heck does that mean???

  33. Tony says:

    The Georgia Hillary Clinton delegation IS Georgia and represents the geographical, cultural, and ethnicity diversity of the DPG State Committee.

    Too bad they don’t also represent the will of 66.4% of Georgians who voted in the primary.

  34. Sarawaraclara says:

    Considering how little true policy disagreement there was between Edwards/Clinton/Obama, I don’t really see how you can say Edwards is representative of the ideology of most of Georgia’s Democrats while Obama and Clinton are not.

    Of course, Edwards was the only white guy from a rural southern area, so perhaps that is why people keep thinking you are blinded by demographics….

  35. RuralDem says:

    I meant it in an ideological sense.

  36. plange says:

    RD, how can you say that the candidates are not representative of GA? Last time I checked, women and African-Americans lived in this state…

  37. RuralDem says:

    Decaturguy,

    Nice try. If you knew anything you would have known I was an Edwards guy.

    Edwards and Georgia make a great mix.

    If you think Edwards represents the 50s, then, well, I’m not sure what to tell you.

    Nice try though.

  38. Jules says:

    Does anyone have the stats from 2004? It would be interesting to see if progress has been made.

    I know you really can’t compare since 2004 wasn’t nearly as contested, contenious or bruising.

    2008 is ahping up to be ground breaking on so many levels, I guess I’m just curious.

  39. Decaturguy says:

    The delegations might be representative of our state, too bad the candidates are not.

    Blah, blah, blah. RuralDem is still pining for the 1950′s it seems.

  40. Jen B. says:

    I’ll start from the bottom:

    1 – Person who went to law school with me

    2 – Reverends

    3 – People who hold doctorate degrees

    4 – Current / former Representatives

    5 – Uhm.. people whose title / first name begins with an R.

    Ok, I got nothing.

  41. jac1975 says:

    Good question RD! I don’t know the stats for Obama’s slate, although there are three active YDs on it, one of whom is bisexual and disabled.

    I am disturbed that Randall Mangham is an Obama delegate. What is it with Obama and the homophobes? Can we make a motion to approve a delegation minus one person? Or would that be bitchy? :)

  42. RuralDem says:

    So, what are the numbers on the Obama delegation? Are they not representative of our state?

    The delegations might be representative of our state, too bad the candidates are not.

  43. sndeak says:

    The Democratic Party is representative of Georgia.

    I urge all State Party members to attend this meeting. We cannot afford to have a less than complete Georgia delegation.

    So come on out and support your delegates, whether they bare on the Obama or Clinton slate.