Somebody just came back from a quickie in the break room.

Although on my way back here from winter break, I sure felt like I was getting served "peanuts" by Northwest.

It took a lot of work and creative scheduling, but I managed to shave a 12 hour delay down to about five or six at the final destination.

she's hot.

I'd take it to dinner

O noes misogyny. Now we're gonna get tied up and beaten with Betty Friedan books.

Zaid - Say whatever you want, but don't be surprised when some of us fail to take you seriously next time you get indignant about something someone says.

So either you accept all things PC or no things PC?

I think the idea is that if someone says something, and you think it's offensive, just let them know and don't really chew them out if they didn't mean harm. That time I used the word "pro-life" got castigated for it is ridiculous, imo. It's mainstream verbiage most people on both side agree to use, and it's not meant to insult anyone.

Maybe it's not accurate, but when sides frame their debates they always frame positive, not negative. The debate is really pro right to have an abortion anti right to have an abortion, not about "choice" or "life" those are just positive frames the respective side uses.

For more, see What Orwell Got Wrong which is the reflections of about a dozen authors on Orwell's essay Language and Politics as it relates to the 21st century.

Zaid - It's not about PC or not-PC. It's about the fact that you make a huge big deal when people use language that you don't like (e.g., "illegal immigrant" to refer to undocumented workers), but get upset when people call you out on other language issues. And while I know that you are at least some percentage joking in this case, I'm just letting you know that I won't be taking your language rants seriously in the future (to the extent that I took them seriously in the first place, of course).

Is it possible for me to find it kind of silly to not allow people to use the words pro-life to describe a political stance people use on themselves but kind of mean spirited to call someone else an illegal immigrant? With one, I'm letting someone else define themselves, with the other, I'm against defaming someone who doesn't want that label on themselves (notice I also would use pro-choice to establish the pro-right to have an abortion side).

You should be able to see the difference.

As for the things about women, I accept that as rightful reprimanding but I also implore you to realize I do respect women as does probably IRE.

Zaid - 1) I'm not the one who called you out about using the term "pro life", nor did I ever engage in that particular argument. I was actually irritated with the youthful tendency to use expressions that are demeaning to women. So, I don't know why you keep bringing up that particular dead horse. 2) I can't spend my time worrying about IRE (sorry, IRE!). That's like trying to empty the Hoover Dam with a thimble. 3) Come to think of it, probably the same could be said for you. So, forget I ever said anything about this issue.

I never claimed you were the one going after me about that but that just bugged me in general and no one stood up for me when I was getting that ridiculous attack that I'd never gotten before so I thought I'd address it. As for the women thing I think you're justified and with good intentions but I don't think IRE or I are disrespectful to women in actuality. Guys just use this kinda language, especially youths. I think you're right in the long run it might have actually foster sexism.

You can stop insulting me now, given that I've given your point of view some consideration respectfully.

OK, truce. But where did I insult you in this particular thread?

" 2) I can't spend my time worrying about IRE (sorry, IRE!). That's like trying to empty the Hoover Dam with a thimble. 3) Come to think of it, probably the same could be said for you. So, forget I ever said anything about this issue."

It's pretty harsh to give up hope on someone.

That's not an insult, Zaid. It's a statement of fact. I have limited time, and you and IRE both are prolific in your comments and your youthful enthusiasms. Neither of you really need me to worry over you anyway (that's what your mothers are for).

When I decide to insult you, it will be unmistakably insulting.

One more thing: I just wanted to clarify that I never meant to imply that I think that you harbor disrespect for women in your heart. My quibble was with a particular expression that I don't like, even coming from people I do like.

"I can't spend my time worrying about IRE (sorry, IRE!). That's like trying to empty the Hoover Dam with a thimble.

WTF IS THAT S**T SUPPOSED TO MEAN???

BTW: Nothing I say or do should be interpreted as either enthusiasm or concern for something.

"Neither of you really need me to worry over you anyway (that's what your mothers are for)."

Mommy drinks 'cause I cry.

I've always liked IRE. If I don't say so myself, thought he had a certain sex appeal.

A UN Sec. General is in the IRE corner.

Recognize.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C5P9J1wCgNM