It seems that Governor Palin is pro-choice, at least when it comes to her own choices. At a recent anti-abortion rights event in Indiana, Palin told the 3,000 person audience that "she had "just for a fleeting moment" contemplated seeking an abortion after learning she was pregnant with her son Trig."
Huh. Sounds to me like she made a choice there.
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" "she had "just for a fleeting moment" contemplated seeking an abortion after learning she was pregnant with her son Trig."
Um, how does that mean she's pro choice?
*whoosh*
Point went over my head because the point doesn't make sense...
She at one point considered doing something she thought was wrong a while ago but didn't so she's pro choice now? Pretty poor logic...
I can't believe we have to explain this again.
Pro-Choice means that citizens are given the opportunity to make their own choices about their reproductive health. If one decides to carry a child to full term, that is a choice. If one decides to end a pregnancy by abortion, that is also a choice.
Governor Palin was able to make the choice carry her child to term. She could have, instead chosen to end the pregnancy thru abortion. Hence, she made a choice.
In the world the anti-choice people imagine, there would be no legal option to end a pregnancy and she would not have had the opportunity to contemplate a legal abortion, even for a fleeting moment.
I'm sorry but this is a little odd.
I mean, I am anti-theft yet I've said, "wow it would be so easy to steal this", but I didn't do it. Hell, shooting the sh*t with people I've said how to execute the perfect bank robbery.
That don't make me pro-theft or support people's right to theft.
Same sort of thing here. Not entirely the same but it is to show that merely having thoughts about maybe aborting a baby is not in any way the same as she supports her own right to chose. They are two separate issues.
"In the world the anti-choice people imagine, there would be no legal option to end a pregnancy and she would not have had the opportunity to contemplate a legal abortion, even for a fleeting moment."
Yeah I am going to have to say that A) we don't all have the same world and B ) I didn't know you were so in tune with the pro-life movement. Have you come to our meetings?
At the end of the day this doesn't really matter w/r/t/ anything.
I have nothing to say because IRE said it all.
Some very cynical people were whispering hatefully that her decision to fly off in a small aircraft to hospital in the middle of nowhere AFTER her water broke was a yea, that's it, a choice, too...
She did know that Trip was going to have issues, because she'd had the tests for risks associated w/ her age.
Some women, when they find out they're having a high risk baby/pregnancy, STOP flying all over the place, and put the health of their baby above their own political ambitions.
But then, to say so out loud or even speculate about someone elses choice is being just as judgemental as the "pro-life" folks that support the death penalty. And pre-emptive war. And are against stem cell research for the living, and well, you know.
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Maddy
Some very cynical people were whispering hatefully that her decision to fly off in a small aircraft to hospital in the middle of nowhere AFTER her water broke was a yea, that's it, a choice, too...
She did know that Trip was going to have issues, because she'd had the tests for risks associated w/ her age.
Some women, when they find out they're having a high risk baby/pregnancy, STOP flying all over the place, and put the health of their baby above their own political ambitions.
But then, to say so out loud or even speculate about someone elses choice is being just as judgemental as the "pro-life" folks that support the death penalty. And pre-emptive war. And are against stem cell research for the living, and well, you know.
Glad to be able to log in again, had trouble a few times and resorted to being a DFI East chapter, in Blakes blog. Hope you don't mind, Jules, I totally HT'd you and BfD.
Maddy
oh shoot, sorry about the dbl post.
This is a common theme within conservative Christian circles. It's not enough to do right, you have resist temptation to do evil. The greater the temptation, the greater the praise when you resist it.
Hence Sarah Palin's "I really, really wanted to kill that baby. But I didn't! Give me candy."
Oh, and if the anti-choice movement hasn't been trying to deprive women of the right to choose, what have they been doing?
"Oh, and if the anti-choice movement hasn't been trying to deprive women of the right to choose, what have they been doing?"
Er, trying to stop abortions? And she didn't actually have an abortion, the thought crossed her mind. Are we going to judge people for thought crimes now? The people who'd do that might have more in common with the evangelicals they despise than they think.
I think this is tag-team, so IRE gets the next one
I think the point is that no matter which way she chose, it WASN'T a crime. She is the one who normally supports making one of those choices a crime.
Could I fairly paraphrase the process like this?
"I made a choice, and it was the right choice, therefore everyone else can- and must be compelled to- make the same choice I did."
""Oh, and if the anti-choice movement hasn't been trying to deprive women of the right to choose, what have they been doing?"
Er, trying to stop abortions?"
I call bullshit. If the wonderful leaders of the "pro-life" movement, with their ultimate prizewinner sitting in the Oval Office wanted to stop abortions, then they wouldn't have been shoving abstinence only teaching down everyone's throats. If the ultimate goal is to stop unwanted pregnancy, then those associated with the pro-life movement needed to be handing out condoms like they were candy at Halloween and stop telling pharmacists at Walgreen’s that they don't have to fill birth control prescriptions because it goes against their beliefs (never mind that they are negligent in their jobs!!!!!!).
This is once again about making people (in this instance women) follow their doctrine.
I think Drew's got the right assessment of her statements. What sexiness the straight and narrow has is due to the fact that it is hard to walk the straight and narrow.
For all of Palin's faults, this is a constituency she has worked for a long time. She isn't about to make a slip-up in their language.
What I fail to realize is how this is bad for her w.r.t. her being pro life? I mean, I think we really have a poor conceptualization of a choice here. I would write more but I'm slammed at work so I have a lot more procrastinating to do.
This is being debated at DemocraticUnderground, too. There's more substance to this than the knee-jerk attacks against the pro-life crowd.
http://www.democraticunderground.com/...ress=102x3836210
It's hypocritical, but it doesn't hurt her - at least with the base. The anti-choice types want to have it both ways - they condemn abortion as murder, then expect priase for the great charity of not committing murder. They pretend pregnancy doesn't seriously compromise a woman's life, health, or liberty, then demand recognition for that supposedly trivial task. Palin is a true believer, so she understands this implicitly.
I do hope it illustrates how bankrupt their morality is - "another day without a murder, go me!" - or at least prompts a WTF moment from the middle, most of whom have a higher moral standard.
More importantly than all this, why is this woman still in the news?
Wow Drew. Just wow.
Whatever, IRE.
I'd respond if you came close to even accurately describing any ethos in your comments.
As far as I can tell, "progressives" are trying to prosecute Palin for a thought crime.
It's really not hard to make Palin look bad, but it's really hard to make them look good, and some on the left seem to be doing that...
Whereas if she'd made a comment about her unwavering support for Israel, no one would have made a statement that might be considered incendiary.
Anyone who's attended Sunday School knows Sarah Palin's shtick for what it is. No need to pretend it's more than that.
Everyone knows Sarah Palin's a pandering hack and everyone knows I think our stance on "we give you tons of money and you kill as many people as you want and even spy on us" with Israel is dumb...