Open Thread… You LIE.. no really it’s an open thread

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17 responses to “Open Thread… You LIE.. no really it’s an open thread”

1. 

   J.M. Prince

   September 11, 2009

   Yep. One of the more egregious, obviously. Here’s Craig Ferguson’s take on Wilson’s outburst:

   http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2009/09/11/craig-ferguson-devotes-en_n_283361.html

   JMP

2. 

   Zaid

   September 11, 2009

   Paul Broun needs a halfway decent opponent people can get cash to everytime he says something insane.

3. 

   J.M. Prince

   September 11, 2009

   Yep, made it a bit after 5AM, to be announced by NPR’s Morning Edition too. Sweet! So can we get some of our well known Ga. Crazy Congresscritters to step it up here? It would be enormously useful for fundraising! Shout for the camera please… JMP

4. 

   J.M. Prince

   September 11, 2009

   In Better news, Rob Miller’s on his way to garnering at least 700K out of all of this. Just Amazing!

   http://www.actblue.com/entity/fundraisers/19079

   JMP

5. 

   J.M. Prince

   September 10, 2009

   Still more on this A-Hole: Via TPM’s Live wire:

   Flashback: Rep. Wilson Also Had To Apologize After Attacking Strom Thurmond’s Illegitimate Daughter

   http://tpmlivewire.talkingpointsmemo.com/2009/09/you-lie-not-the-first-time-rep-wilsons-emotions-got-the-best-of-him.php

   Piece of work. JMP

6. 

   J.M. Prince

   September 10, 2009

   “Is it standard practice to hire hookers to “lobby” state assemblymen?”

   Why yes it is. And it not infrequently ‘ensnares’ ‘conservative family values’ politicians too. Or entire Federal Departments under BushCo: [Via TPM]

   Sex-for-Oil Scandal Rocks Interior Department

   By Justin Rood – January 4, 2007, 11:48AM

   http://tpmmuckraker.talkingpointsmemo.com/archives/002275.php

   Every year. So it’s a grand & great tradition. Everywhere too. It makes you wonder if we’d not be much more successful in fielding our own team of ‘lobbyists’ to capture such moments with our own army of various ‘honey traps’. You know for the future & good of democracy & liberty & all. And yes, there’d be hazard & combat pay etc. OK, now someone tell me that this just would not be wildly more efficient than trying to convince morons of some actual real ‘facts’ & of much needed reforms. Right?

   This has been another episode of relatively easy answers to almost complex questions. JMP

7. 

   BEZERKO

   September 10, 2009

   I don’t mean to sound naive here, but is it standard practice to hire hookers to “lobby” state assemblymen?

   http://thinkprogress.org/2009/09/09/michael-duvall-sexual-conquests/

   http://cbs2.com/video/?id=113582%40kcbs.dayport.com

   “K-CAL‚Äôs Lopez relates that sources told him Duvall ‚Äúloves to talk about his quote sexual conquests,‚Äù and ‚Äúit‚Äôs very difficult to get him to change the subject.‚Äù According to the OC Weekly, one of the lobbyists Duvall is having sex with is Heidi De Jong Barsuglia, who became a lobbyist for a major California utility after Duvall became vice chairman of the utilities committee:

   In April ‚Äî two months after Duvall became vice chairman of the Utilities & Commerce committee ‚Äî privately owned California utility giant Sempra Energy hired Barsuglia as one of its top lobbyists, according to Secretary of State records.”

8. 

   JerryT

   September 10, 2009

   A pretty nice summary of the AAHCA (which I am now calling the Ted Kennedy Affordable Health Care Act):

   http://www.stark.house.gov/images/stories/111/legislation/AAHCA/aahca-billsummary-071409.pdf

9. 

   Jules

   September 10, 2009

   100K, 100K Joe Wilson had a very bad day!

   Rob Miller’s campaign has received 100k since last night.

   Wow those were two very expensive words ya numbnut Joe.

10. 

    Sara

    September 10, 2009

    Our Georgia congressmen just held up copies of the Republican bill throughout the speech.

    I’m getting a sense that perhaps these politicians trying to live by the angry tea party sword might die by it instead.

11. 

    Zaid

    September 10, 2009

    After I saw what happened, I was just happy it wasn’t a Georgian for once.

12. 

    Bernita

    September 10, 2009

    “I have seen every President address a joint session of Congress in the past 23 years,” said Rep. John Lewis (D-Ga.), “in good times and bad. I have never heard any member of Congress yell out during a speech and call the President a liar.”

    House Majority Whip Jim Clyburn said that his fellow South Carolinian “took our state’s reputation to a new low.”

    ‚ÄúI thought Mark Sanford had taken it as low as it could go, but this is beyond the pale.”

    Clyburn further took the opportunity to air his grievances over Wilson holding a town hall meeting last month at the high school three blocks from Clyburn’s house, a perceived affront that has stuck in the Democrat’s craw for the last few weeks.

    ‚ÄúThat’s the kind of guy Joe Wilson is,‚Äù Clyburn said. ‚ÄúHe loves confronting people. So he was confronting the president, just as he was confronting me.”

    Read more: http://www.politico.com/news/stories/0909/26973_Page2.html#ixzz0Qgig1WfK

13. 

    J.M. Prince

    September 10, 2009

    Holy Cow Batman, that man Rob Miller just raised at least 40K off of that idiots untoward remarks last night! 36K from the DailyKos alone! That’s quite impressive.

    Openleft has some of the early reaction in the polls, and something about what Wilson may have meant. If he was a sailing cowboy. Or something. JMP

    http://www.openleft.com/viewQuickHits.do#10781

14. 

    Drew

    September 9, 2009

    Rob Miller’s website has apparently been slashdotted. Perhaps ActBlue?

    http://www.actblue.com/entity/fundraisers/19079

15. 

    J.M. Prince

    September 9, 2009

    OK apparently it’s my self appointed job to bring some levity here too. This just in from Z over @ Think Progress.org:

    “Iraqi shoe thrower being showered by ‚Äòoffers and gifts‚Äô upon his anticipated release from prison”.

    http://thinkprogress.org/2009/09/09/iraqi-shoe-gifts/

    “Last December, Iraqi journalist Muntadar al-Zaidi [[No relation!]] made headlines across the world when he hurled his shoes at President Bush during a press conference in Baghdad. Although al-Zaidi was originally sentenced to three years in prison, Iraqi courts recently decided to release him on Sept. 14 for ‚Äúgood behavior.‚Äù Now, the Guardian is reporting that al-Zaidi is being inundated ‚Äúby offers and gifts‚Äù from all over his country:

    From his prison cell, Zaidi has a sense of the gathering fuss, but not the full extent of the benefactors and patrons preparing for his release.

    A new four-bedroom home has been built by his former boss. A new car – and the promise of many more – awaits.

    Pledges of harems, money and healthcare are pouring in to his employers, the al-Baghdadia television channel.

    “One Iraqi who lived in Morocco called to offer to send his daughter to be Muntazer’s wife,” said editor Abdul Hamid al-Saij.

    “Another called from Saudi offering $10m for his shoes, and another called from Morocco offering a gold-saddled horse.

    For his part, al-Zaidi has told the press that he plans to leave journalism and open an orphanage upon his release”.

    Aww, it almost sounds like a happy ending, right?

    And yeah, be really careful when you go out into those woods today too:

    “U.S. Forest Service warns against campers drinking Tecate beer, eating tortillas, and playing Spanish music.”

    http://thinkprogress.org/2009/09/09/forest-service-immigrant-drug-cartels/

    JMP

16. 

    J.M. Prince

    September 9, 2009

    Think Progress’ coverage of the ‘wild disrespectful outburst’:

    http://thinkprogress.org/2009/09/09/obama-joint-address/

    Noting of course that: “On Fox Business News, Karl Rove and host Neil Cavuto thought Wilson shouting at the President was hilarious. “Joe Wilson, good guy,” said Rove. “Lovely,” agreed Cavuto.”

    FOX of course Only carried the speech on their tiny FBN channel, where possibly 300K were able to watch.

    So the argument I guess is, bigoted or merely racist? JMP

17. 

    J.M. Prince

    September 9, 2009

    What the Obama Health Care Reform Plan looks like in 2-3 pages:

    http://www.whitehouse.gov/issues/health_care/plan/

    and the Full text of the speech delivered tonight via PBS:

    http://www.pbs.org/newshour/updates/politics/july-dec09/speechtext_09-09.html

    And yeah, the crazier Joe Wilson (R, Buffon, SC) has evidently already apologized. For what it’s worth. No word yet if he’s a prospect for inclusion on the ‘no fly list’ as were the late Sen. Teddy Kennedy, Cong. John Lewis & other notable Libs were under BushCo.

    I thought it was a strong speech, and good for what ails us. It also seriously undercut the opposition. I can’t see where anyone reasonable might object to the goals & means as he outlined them. But then again I’ve frequently found that I’m not often living in a ‘reasonable’ part of the country. But that’s everywhere too. JMP